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Pittsburgh Pinball League

Active from 01/09/2014 through 02/04/2019.

Played 15 seasons, 102 meets, 306 games.

Machine Summaries

MachineAverage ScoreHighest ScoreLowest ScorePlays
24 (Dojo) 8,403,350 8,403,350 8,403,350 1
24 (Pinball Factory) 11,516,480 23,087,060 3,000,130 3
AC/DC (Kickback) 16,272,460 19,213,090 12,878,610 3
AC/DC LE (Scaletta's) 11,660,960 11,660,960 11,660,960 1
AC/DC Premium (The Sandlot) 7,649,900 7,649,900 7,649,900 1
ACDC Premium (Pinball Factory) 4,495,280 4,495,280 4,495,280 1
Aerosmith (Kickback) 10,789,120 20,887,280 5,712,550 3
Aerosmith (TRIX) 8,252,700 8,252,700 8,252,700 1
America's Most Haunted (Kickback) 8,726,210 8,726,210 8,726,210 1
Attack From Mars (Al's A.P.P.) 892,718,280 892,718,280 892,718,280 1
Attack From Mars (Kickback) 1,261,820,380 2,531,858,200 555,537,250 6
Attack From Mars (NGVL) 1,960,584,580 2,638,651,280 1,282,517,880 2
Attack From Mars (Pinball Factory) 1,940,857,140 3,149,330,170 732,384,100 2
Avatar (Lava) 5,484,620 5,484,620 5,484,620 1
Banzai Run (Kickback) 839,350 1,243,140 451,630 7
Barracora (Pinball Factory) 279,410 434,450 135,200 3
Batman 66 (Kickback) 28,866,160 30,039,260 27,693,060 2
Batman: Dark Knight (Kickback) 28,427,240 28,427,240 28,427,240 1
Batman: Dark Knight (Pinball Factory) 15,891,910 28,775,770 3,008,040 2
Beatles (Kickback) 2,822,660 3,428,810 2,216,500 2
Big Game (Kickback) 374,280 893,590 77,920 4
Black Jack (PAPA) 135,630 135,630 135,630 1
Blackout (Pinball Factory) 362,870 362,870 362,870 1
Bram Stoker's Dracula (Kickback) 285,582,860 285,582,860 285,582,860 1
Bram Stoker's Dracula (NGVL) 13,887,350 13,887,350 13,887,350 1
Bride of Pinbot (Bradish) 1,149,670 1,149,670 1,149,670 1
Bride of Pinbot (Kickback) 2,042,700 2,629,230 1,611,330 3
Centaur (Kickback) 75,100 75,100 75,100 1
Centaur (NGVL) 109,090 109,090 109,090 1
Centaur (TRIX) 213,120 213,120 213,120 1
Cirqus Voltaire (PAPA) 2,671,350 2,671,350 2,671,350 1
Congo (Pinball Factory) 346,751,730 536,078,970 123,378,100 3
Corvette (NGVL) 409,074,560 409,074,560 409,074,560 1
Cosmic Gunfight (NGVL) 151,680 151,680 151,680 1
Creature From the Black Lagoon (Kickback) 40,403,940 41,435,740 39,372,130 2
Creature From the Black Lagoon (Sock Hop) 11,135,920 11,135,920 11,135,920 1
Deadpool (Helicon) 7,195,220 7,195,220 7,195,220 1
Deadpool (Kickback) 18,214,830 18,214,830 18,214,830 1
Demolition Man (Kickback) 212,372,620 215,238,490 209,506,750 2
Demolition Man (Pinball Factory) 173,509,520 173,509,520 173,509,520 1
Dialed In (Kickback) 322,030 506,380 66,010 3
Dialed In (Pinball Factory) 18,900 18,900 18,900 1
Dirty Harry (NGVL) 243,423,400 322,305,640 118,692,910 3
Dr. Dude (NGVL) 1,363,720 1,363,720 1,363,720 1
Eight Ball (PAPA) 97,780 97,780 97,780 1
Elektra (Kickback) 127,150 196,950 57,350 2
Embryon (NGVL) 119,900 188,040 51,750 2
Evel Knievel (Buck) 156,900 156,900 156,900 1
Family Guy (Kickback) 29,539,790 41,544,650 18,593,320 3
Family Guy (Shrek code) (Al's A.P.P.) 2,723,230 2,723,230 2,723,230 1
Far Out (Pinball Factory) 36,600 36,600 36,600 1
Fathom (Pinball Factory) 185,440 328,090 43,170 3
Firepower (Pinball Factory) 79,590 92,670 54,750 3
Fish Tales (Bradish) 5,686,770 5,686,770 5,686,770 1
Fish Tales (Kickback) 17,249,340 31,371,700 8,800,400 3
Flash Gordon (Pinball Factory) 193,600 193,600 193,600 1
Frontier (Pball Perfection) 199,000 199,000 199,000 1
Funhouse (PAPA) 1,138,440 1,138,440 1,138,440 1
Funhouse (Pinball Factory) 2,643,430 4,325,840 1,811,250 4
Galaxy (Pinball Factory) 103,260 103,260 103,260 1
Game of Thrones (Kickback) 4,648,820 4,648,820 4,648,820 1
Genie (Bradish) 198,710 262,740 140,450 5
Ghostbusters (Kickback) 69,626,100 69,626,100 69,626,100 1
Ghostbusters (NGVL) 54,567,540 54,567,540 54,567,540 1
Ghostbusters (TRIX) 323,850,470 323,850,470 323,850,470 1
Gorgar (Pinball Factory) 86,500 86,500 86,500 1
Guardians of the Galaxy (Helicon) 17,398,330 17,398,330 17,398,330 1
Guardians of the Galaxy (Kickback) 43,332,760 49,330,960 37,334,560 2
High Roller Casino (Pinball Factory) 60,624,360 60,624,360 60,624,360 1
Hot Tip (Pinball Factory) 29,990 45,700 15,190 3
Indiana Jones (Kickback) 35,320,200 65,473,630 19,280,540 3
Indy 500 (Pinball Factory) 98,229,360 155,027,820 28,806,670 3
Iron Maiden (Kickback) 39,647,660 39,647,660 39,647,660 1
Iron Man (Kickback) 10,603,720 18,354,480 5,329,850 5
Iron Man (NGVL) 43,723,190 43,723,190 43,723,190 1
Jackbot (Pinball Factory) 817,853,880 1,021,331,400 614,376,350 2
Johnny Mnemonic (Sock Hop) 604,254,240 604,254,240 604,254,240 1
Jungle Queen (Kickback) 58,600 58,600 58,600 1
Kick Off (Pinball Factory) 47,030 47,030 47,030 1
Kiss (Stern) (Pinball Factory) 19,272,440 32,762,120 5,782,760 2
Knockout (Pinball Factory) 33,780 33,780 33,780 1
Lord of the Rings (Bradish) 11,099,790 11,099,790 11,099,790 1
Lost World (Kickback) 89,730 123,840 64,560 4
Medieval Madness (Kickback) 20,519,470 48,597,470 363,810 7
Medieval Madness (NGVL) 9,825,750 9,825,750 9,825,750 1
Medieval Madness (PAPA) 13,717,110 13,717,110 13,717,110 1
Medieval Madness (Pinball Factory) 31,617,910 31,617,910 31,617,910 1
Medieval Madness (Scaletta's) 36,336,290 gold medal 36,336,290 36,336,290 1
Medusa (Slovak Club) 134,750 134,750 134,750 1
Metallica (Pinball Factory) 19,817,600 25,835,070 13,800,120 2
Metallica LE (Scaletta's) 3,974,950 3,974,950 3,974,950 1
Monster Bash (Bradish) 17,200,660 42,532,960 3,733,970 3
Monster Bash (Kickback) 21,936,690 64,418,330 2,968,970 6
Mousin Around (TRIX) 4,697,990 6,347,150 3,048,830 2
Mustang Pro (Bradish) 15,582,170 15,582,170 15,582,170 1
Mustang Pro (Kickback) 26,000,520 40,145,720 11,500,970 4
Mystery Castle (Pball Perfection) 44,921,240 44,921,240 44,921,240 1
Mystic (Pinball Factory) 48,960 48,960 48,960 1
NBA Fastbreak (Kickback) 22 22 22 1
Nine Ball (Bradish) 93,030 93,030 93,030 1
No Fear (Al's A.P.P.) 213,815,920 213,815,920 213,815,920 1
No Good Gophers (PAPA) 3,751,090 3,751,090 3,751,090 1
Old Chicago (Kickback) 47,210 47,210 47,210 1
Paragon (Bradish) 59,380 59,380 59,380 1
Paragon (Pinball Factory) 34,640 56,810 12,470 2
Party Zone (Kickback) 8,322,220 8,322,220 8,322,220 1
Pinbot (Bradish) 207,400 251,100 163,690 2
Pinbot (PAPA) 713,570 713,570 713,570 1
Pirates of the Carribean (Kopy's) 16,226,960 16,226,960 16,226,960 1
PiratesOTC (Kickback) 27,710,240 38,548,170 16,872,310 2
Rockmakers (Pball Perfection) 1,120 1,115 1,115 1
Scared Stiff (Kickback) 2,587,940 2,798,220 2,377,650 2
Shrek (Bubbledome) 11,616,480 11,616,480 11,616,480 1
Sinbad (Bradish) 26,710 26,710 26,710 1
Skateball (Scaletta's) 436,410 436,410 436,410 1
Slick Chick (Bubbledome) 745 745 745 1
Snow Derby (Pinball Factory) 4,060 4,063 4,063 1
Sound Stage (PAPA) 128,450 gold medal 128,450 128,450 1
Space Shuttle (Kickback) 212,730 360,540 124,200 4
Space Shuttle (Pinball Factory) 196,460 196,460 196,460 1
Spider-Man (Dojo) 41,677,700 41,677,700 41,677,700 1
Spider-Man (Kickback) 37,976,110 46,470,620 29,481,600 2
Spider-Man (Scaletta's) 15,936,510 15,936,510 15,936,510 1
Star Pool (Pinball Factory) 62,870 93,490 20,780 5
Star Trek (Stern) (Bradish) 9,613,880 21,162,270 3,020,830 3
Star Trek (Stern) (Pinball Factory) 10,086,970 27,502,010 4,165,190 6
Star Trek Premium (Doublewide) 26,365,550 26,365,550 26,365,550 1
Star Trek Pro (Slovak Club) 4,896,050 4,896,050 4,896,050 1
Star Trek Pro (Sock Hop) 2,809,800 2,809,800 2,809,800 1
Star Trek TNG (Kickback) 111,081,570 148,819,220 73,343,920 2
Star Trek: The Next Generation (Hambones) 81,639,870 81,639,870 81,639,870 1
Star Trek: The Next Generation (Pinball Factory) 33,375,030 33,375,030 33,375,030 1
Star Wars Pro (Kickback) 128,534,750 128,534,750 128,534,750 1
Stars (NGVL) 133,350 133,350 133,350 1
Stars (Scaletta's) 86,350 86,350 86,350 1
Stellar Wars (Pinball Factory) 95,130 166,580 56,060 5
Supersonic (NGVL) 191,480 239,270 143,690 2
Taxi (Pinball Factory) 951,660 1,090,760 812,550 2
Terminator 3 (Kickback) 26,340,530 26,340,530 26,340,530 1
The Addams Family (Bradish) 26,483,950 26,483,950 26,483,950 1
The Addams Family (Pinball Factory) 33,057,550 66,493,760 11,768,430 6
The Getaway: High Speed 2 (Slovak Club) 55,296,050 55,296,050 55,296,050 1
The Shadow (Pinball Factory) 74,868,550 74,868,550 74,868,550 1
The Sopranos (PAPA) 19,901,210 19,901,210 19,901,210 1
The Walking Dead LE (Kickback) 11,234,820 16,023,790 6,445,840 2
Theater of Magic (Kickback) 274,745,140 435,631,050 113,859,230 2
Theater of Magic (The Sandlot) 407,870,790 407,870,790 407,870,790 1
Tommy (Kickback) 145,375,640 145,375,640 145,375,640 1
Total Nuclear Annil (Helicon) 304,040 304,040 304,040 1
Transformers (LE) (Kickback) 9,903,320 16,887,950 5,333,370 3
Transformers LE (NGVL) 11,918,050 11,918,050 11,918,050 1
Transformers Pro (Cattivo) 9,139,840 9,536,490 8,743,190 2
Transporter: The Rescue (Pinball Factory) 948,390 1,088,710 808,060 2
Tron (Kickback) 12,822,540 12,822,540 12,822,540 1
TRON (Pinball Factory) 12,124,050 12,124,050 12,124,050 1
Twilight Zone (Kickback) 35,916,120 44,883,410 26,948,830 2
Twilight Zone (NGVL) 85,309,390 85,309,390 85,309,390 1
Twilight Zone (Pinball Factory) 48,230,840 48,230,840 48,230,840 1
TX Sector (Pinball Factory) 1,753,000 2,605,720 900,270 2
Voltan (Bubbledome) 233,850 233,850 233,850 1
Whirlwind (NGVL) 1,404,110 1,404,110 1,404,110 1
Whirlwind (Pinball Factory) 6,944,730 8,182,240 5,707,220 2
White Water (Bradish) 76,415,310 141,350,280 11,480,330 2
White Water (Kickback) 125,686,500 198,686,430 52,686,560 2
WHO dunnit (Kickback) 463,687,390 463,687,390 463,687,390 1
WHO dunnit (Pinball Factory) 616,165,020 616,165,020 616,165,020 1
Wizard of Oz LE (Kickback) 12,050 12,049 12,049 1
World Cup Soccer (Dojo) 161,400,210 161,400,210 161,400,210 1
World Cup Soccer (TRIX) 170,207,250 170,207,250 170,207,250 1
World Cup Soccer 94 (Pinball Factory) 274,561,560 395,658,640 203,059,470 3
World Cup Soccer 94 (The Sandlot) 152,085,000 152,085,000 152,085,000 1
Wrestlemania LE (Pinball Factory) 17,448,190 17,448,190 17,448,190 1
X's & O's (Pinball Factory) 91,540 91,540 91,540 1

Head to Head Results

OpponentWinsLossesWin Percentage
Aaron Crittenden2433.33%
Aaron Metz2166.67%
Adam Lemankiewicz1233.33%
Adam Pecharka2433.33%
Aiton Goldman030.00%
AJ Replogle9660.00%
Al Thomka3925.00%
Albert Kaczmarczyk1150.00%
Aleksander Kaczmarczyk1811.11%
Alex Clark5362.50%
Alex Fruzynski6366.67%
Allison Thrower30100.00%
Andy Grubb1233.33%
Ashley Grabenstein1233.33%
Augustin Pionati5741.67%
Barry Applbaum2166.67%
Ben Blackmore30100.00%
Bob Crittenden60100.00%
Bob Stallsmith2166.67%
Brad Whittle30100.00%
Brandon Dye4266.67%
Brandon Schwab3633.33%
Brennan Ehrman2166.67%
Brett Berkman2433.33%
Brian Bower2166.67%
Brian Dye2433.33%
Brian Flizanes5183.33%
Brian Smyth2433.33%
Brian Teyssier3350.00%
Brian Uplinger1233.33%
Brinkley Sharpe1233.33%
Carole Walker1233.33%
Cathy Alioto30100.00%
Chad Warren2166.67%
Chris Deely2722.22%
Chris Henry2166.67%
Christie Highwart2166.67%
Clay Penrose2166.67%
Colin Dundes2166.67%
Colleen Shuda30100.00%
Colton Yanosky1233.33%
Corey McGee2166.67%
Cryss Stephens2166.67%
Darren Dauberger1516.67%
Dave Forman5183.33%
Dave Lancaster1516.67%
David Riel31516.67%
David Smalley1233.33%
Derek Eversmann2166.67%
Donnie Halinka1233.33%
Eamon Balouch30100.00%
Ed Skeva2166.67%
Eddie Smith1233.33%
Edward Rice30100.00%
Elise Fanto3350.00%
Elizabeth Cromwell5183.33%
Elizabeth Klevens30100.00%
Emily Farah2166.67%
Eric Brown3350.00%
Erica Miller2166.67%
Erik Gatz1233.33%
Erin Kelly2166.67%
Evan Bookbinder3350.00%
Evan Callahan2166.67%
Frank Cunniff1233.33%
Gary Hartz1233.33%
Giancarlo Dozzi2166.67%
Greg Galanter3350.00%
Greg Olszewski30100.00%
Harold Lessure5183.33%
Jack Wunschel2166.67%
James Emanuel2433.33%
James Kunz1233.33%
Jamie Balser30100.00%
Jamie Kowinsky2166.67%
Jared Chambers4450.00%
Jared Schmidt4544.44%
Jason Bokor1233.33%
Jason Potter1233.33%
Jason Rihn5183.33%
JD (Josh) Dixon3350.00%
Jeanette Alioto3350.00%
Jeff Gilbert30100.00%
Jeremy Emanuel3350.00%
Jeremy Shafton30100.00%
Jerry Jantz1233.33%
Jerry Smith30100.00%
Joe Dep3350.00%
Joe Pietrusza030.00%
Joe Scaletta1811.11%
Joe White2166.67%
Joel Basta5455.56%
John Barker030.00%
Jordan Retterer30100.00%
Joshua Burfield1233.33%
Justin T Kelly30100.00%
Kat Vandegrift3350.00%
Katy Willow2166.67%
Kayla Pietrusza30100.00%
Kayla Taylor2166.67%
Keith Rhodes8466.67%
Kevin Brown21016.67%
Kevin Vitale3925.00%
Kim Lauver7277.78%
Kyle Williams030.00%
Larry West3350.00%
Lauren Kester1233.33%
Lee Klevens5455.56%
Lene Pietrusza2166.67%
Lewis Bevans3925.00%
Lindsey West4544.44%
Linus Pietrusza3350.00%
Lucas Herter1233.33%
Lyle Applbaum2722.22%
Mahesh Murthy51623.81%
Marisa Bailey2166.67%
Mark Konopasek6650.00%
Mark Lawrence1233.33%
Mark Maines60100.00%
Matt Schwab2722.22%
Max Applbaum1516.67%
Max Cameron30100.00%
Maya Nigrosh030.00%
Megan Pantanella30100.00%
Melinda Pietrusza4266.67%
Melissa Rogers2166.67%
Michael Sakowitz2433.33%
Mike Dice3350.00%
Mike McFarland1233.33%
Mike Sill30100.00%
Mish Paull2166.67%
Nick Jaquay5455.56%
Olesya Brown030.00%
Owen Daly4544.44%
Patrick Martin4266.67%
Patty Greeno1233.33%
Peace Nick Mann2433.33%
Pete Hendricks1233.33%
Priyanka Kochhar3350.00%
Raymond Giorgi1150.00%
Rich Mahathey2166.67%
Rob Sneed3350.00%
Rod Winzinek2433.33%
Roger Hartill2166.67%
Roger Wolff4544.44%
Ryan Repp1233.33%
Sandi Callahan2166.67%
Sara Chambers5183.33%
Sarah Anne Clarke3350.00%
Scott Kowalski6554.55%
Scott Reppert2166.67%
Scott Stephens030.00%
Silas Russell1233.33%
Stephanie Everhart2166.67%
Stephen Wilson30100.00%
Steve Zumoff2433.33%
Taylor Shephard5455.56%
Terrance Wareham4266.67%
Tim Foley3633.33%
Tim Tournay1516.67%
Tommy Furfari1233.33%
Trevor Bublitz2166.67%
Tyler Rosini2166.67%
Tyler Sutton2433.33%
Val Testa2166.67%
Vinnie Ciaramello1233.33%
Virginia Hendricks2166.67%
Wayne Roth4266.67%
Xander Hendrickson6275.00%

Badges Awarded (33)

Amber
Amber
Earned for completing 5 seasons.

Earned 11/08/2018 (Pittsburgh Pinball League 33 meet 9)
Mirror Mirror
Mirror Mirror
Earned for having a palindromic machine score.

Earned 10/04/2018 (Pittsburgh Pinball League 33 meet 4)
Old School
Old School
Earned for having a machine score ending in 000.

Earned 05/31/2018 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Season 32 meet 7)
Three-peat
Three-peat
Earned for winning your group in 3 consecutive meets.

Earned 03/15/2018 (PPL Winter 18 (Season 31) meet 8)
Triple Jackpot
Triple Jackpot
Earned for scoring 450 total league points.

Earned 03/15/2018 (PPL Winter 18 (Season 31) meet 8)
Beating the Odds
Beating the Odds
Earned for exceeding the league average on every game of a meet.

Earned 01/18/2018 (PPL Winter 18 (Season 31) meet 2)
Triple Scoop
Triple Scoop
Earned for scoring 3+3+3 points in a meet.

Earned 09/23/2017 (PPL Fall 2017 (Season 30) meet 4)
Strong Finish
Strong Finish
Earned for getting a league high score on a machine in the final meet of a season.

Earned 05/25/2017 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Spring 2017 meet 9)
Lollipop
Lollipop
Earned for having a machine score not ending in zero.

Earned 05/11/2017 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Spring 2017 meet 7)
Double Jackpot
Double Jackpot
Earned for scoring 300 total league points.

Earned 04/27/2017 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Spring 2017 meet 5)
Museum
Museum
Earned for playing 50 different machines.

Earned 01/26/2017 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Winter 2017 meet 3)
Snake Eyeses
Snake Eyeses
Earned for scoring 1+1+1 points in a meet.

Earned 01/17/2017 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Winter 2017 meet 1)
WTF?!
WTF?!
Earned for winning a game with less than 20% of the league average score.

Earned 11/17/2016 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Season 27 meet 9)
Head of the Class
Head of the Class
Earned for making A Division.

Earned 11/17/2016 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Season 27 meet 9)
Red Line Mania
Red Line Mania
Earned for playing in multiple "close games" in a meet.

Earned 10/13/2016 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Season 27 meet 4)
Fifteen!
Fifteen!
Earned for scoring 15 points in a meet!

Earned 09/22/2016 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Season 27 meet 2)
Two-fer
Two-fer
Earned for winning your group in 2 consecutive meets.

Earned 09/22/2016 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Season 27 meet 2)
The Air Up There
The Air Up There
Earned for having the highest overall point total during a season.

Earned 09/22/2016 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Season 27 meet 2)
En Fuego
En Fuego
Earned for winning all games in a meet.

Earned 09/22/2016 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Season 27 meet 2)
Jackpot
Jackpot
Earned for scoring 150 total league points.

Earned 09/18/2016 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Season 27 meet 1)
Lucky Sevens
Lucky Sevens
Earned for having the most total sevens in your machine scores in a season.

Earned 03/03/2016 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Season 25 meet 9)
Arcade
Arcade
Earned for playing 30 different machines.

Earned 01/14/2016 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Season 25 meet 2)
Daily Double
Daily Double
Earned for having the top score for two machines in a meet.

Earned 01/14/2016 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Season 25 meet 2)
Finish Line
Finish Line
Earned for completing a season.

Earned 11/12/2015 (Pittsburgh Pinball League 24 meet 9)
Billionaire Club
Billionaire Club
Earned for scoring a billion points on a machine.

Earned 10/29/2015 (Pittsburgh Pinball League 24 meet 7)
Middle of the Road
Middle of the Road
Earned for scoring 2+2+2 points in a meet.

Earned 10/22/2015 (Pittsburgh Pinball League 24 meet 6)
Red Line
Red Line
Earned for playing in a "close game".

Earned 10/22/2015 (Pittsburgh Pinball League 24 meet 6)
Weiner
Weiner
Earned for winning your group.

Earned 10/15/2015 (Pittsburgh Pinball League 24 meet 5)
Game Room
Game Room
Earned for playing 15 different machines.

Earned 10/01/2015 (Pittsburgh Pinball League 24 meet 3)
Downhill Slide
Downhill Slide
Earned for getting fewer league points on each game than the one before.

Earned 09/22/2015 (Pittsburgh Pinball League 24 meet 1)
Going for Gold
Going for Gold
Earned for finishing a season with the high score on a machine.

Earned 06/11/2015 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Season 23 meet 9)
Pwnage
Pwnage
Earned for having a 100% win percentage against an opponent in a season.

Earned 06/11/2015 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Season 23 meet 9)
Best in Show
Best in Show
Earned for having the top score for a machine in a meet.

Earned 04/23/2015 (Pittsburgh Pinball League Season 23 meet 3)